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AMERICA

17. Who was the immigrant, Thomas Butler, who was born 1674

and settled in Berwick, Maine, before 1700?

His descendant, Franklin C. Butler of California, states that

Thomas is believed to have been descended from the Butlers of

Ireland and was buried with his wife, Elizabeth (c. 1675-1728), in

the village cemetery at Berwick.

18. What is the ancestry of the Butlers of the great Patrick and

Aimee Butler Foundation of Minnesota?

Their Irish link is well established. Their direct male line can be

traced back to Walter Butler of Balinhinch, Kilmurry Parish,

near Newtownmountkennedy, Co. Wicklow, whose son, Walter,

m. 1822, Catherine O'Toole (d. 1824), whose son, Patrick (b. 1823)

m. Mary Ann Gaffney and emigrated, 1848, to Illinois, settling

eventually in Minnesota, whose grandson, Patrick Butler, of St.

Paul, Mo., has done much to champion Irish American interests.

Walter's ancestor may well have been the farmer, Patrick Butlerof Co. Wicklow, who m., 25 Nov. 1729, at Newcastle (by New-

townmountkennedy), Catherine Storey, spinster of Co. Wicklow

(Dublin Marriage Licences) and was probably son of another

Patrick Butler by his wife Anastatia (d. 1736). She was described

as a widow of Newcastle, Co. Wicklow in her Will (B.T.R., 41).

This pocket of Butlers in O'Byrne country emanated perhaps

from the ancient Butler Barony of Arklow, for the history of

which see Coll. Gen. (ed. Foster), I, 46-48.

19. What is the ancestry of the Butlers of the flourishing Butler

Company of Hinsdale, Illinois?

Their direct male line can be traced as far back as Lt. William

Butler (1653-1730) of Chebacco, Ipswich, Mass., and his first wife,

Sarah, da. of Roben Cross of Ipswich, Mass. (Essex Deeds, xxvi,

91). Who was William's father? There is a tradition that the family

came from Yorkshire and were related to the Butlers of Ireland,

which suggests a connection with the Butlers of Baildon (see

page 223).

ASIA

20. Who was the father of the Miss Butler of the Philippine

Islands who there married at the end of the 19th Century a

Mr. Burke?

Her great-nephew. Sir William Teeling, says her mother was a

Catholic and her father, who made a fortune in Manila, was a

Protestant and, moreover, the son of a bishop ("we think a bishop

of Lichfield of about 100 years ago").

Samuel Butler (1774-1839) was Bishop of Lichfield, 1836-39

(see Question No. 24 for his ancestry). But as far as is known,

he had only one son, Thomas, who became Rector of Langar,

Notts. However, if there was another son who found fortune

overseas, he may possibly have been disowned by his family for

having married a Catholic.

Sir William adds that Mrs. Burke nee Butler, grew immensely

rich from her extensive stores and other property in Manila, that

her three sons, surnamed Butler-Burke. all died childless, and

that her eventual heiress was her only da. whose children live

in the South of France.

We are indebted to Mr. John Curle, the British Ambassador in

Manila, for the knowledge that the Miss Butler in question was

named Victoria Carlotta. her husband was Dr. John Burke and

their eldest son was born 8 Dec. 1869.

AUSTRALASIA

21. Who was Capt. William Butler, b. 1814, who immigrated

to New Zealand in 1839?

The enquiry comes from his great-grand-da., Mrs. Hancock of

Auckland, N. Z., who adds: "We know he was of the Ormonde

Butler family; but he seems to have been reticent about his con-

nections. In 1839 he came in the ship "Diana" and settled in

the Bay of Islands. He has many descendants in N. Z., although

no males of the name of Butler."

EUROPE

22. What was the ancestry of Capt. Henry Butler of Little Green,

Chaddeston, Lancs., who in the mid-l9th century married

Harriett, formerly Horrox?

Their daughter was born 11 April 1860 and named in her birth-

certificate as Caroline Elizabeth Newland. Mr. Kenneth Butler-

Evans of Morecambe (whence come the shrimps!) is her grandson.

son. The name of Henry was much favoured by the Butlers of

Rawcliffe, Lancs., and more information about the intervening

generations might establish that this Henry was descended from

the Henry Butler of Rawcliffe who, born c. 1584, had three wives

and at least fourteen children.

23. Who was the father of the 18th century coachmaker, James

Butler of Great Queen Street, Lincoln's inn Fields, London?

Possibly he descended from Sir James Butler of Lincoln's Inn

(c. 1629-c. 1704), the illegimate son of the 1st Duke of Onnonde

by Isabella Rich, da. of the first Earl Holland, or from the James

who was admitted to Lincoln's Inn, 27 Oct. 1660, as 2nd s. of

Richard Butler of Ballyquin, Co. Waterford, and whom Blake

Butler questionably thought was the same person as Sir James.

This coachmaker's chief memorial is the four-ton State Coach he

completed in 1762 for George III, not to be confused with the

vehicle know as the Irish State Coach, the original of which was

built by Mr. Hutton, Lord Mayor of Dublin and bought by Queen

Victoria on her visit to Dublin in 1852. The coach that Butler made

has been described as "the most superb carriage ever built". Drawn

by eight postillion-ridden bays, it still lumbers through London on

great occasions (London Chronicle, 8 Jan. 1761 et seq.; Jo of the

Clerk of the Stables, P.R.O., London; The Times, 26 Nov. 1962).

24. What was the ancestry of Samuel Butler (1835-1902), the

author of "Erewhon"?

He was son of Thomas, s. of Samuel (1774-1839), s. of William

Butler of Kenilworth, Warwickshire.

William may have been of the family of Ralph le Botiller (died

c. 1281) of Oversley, Warw., who was Butler to the Earl of Leic-

ester. Samuel (1774-1839) was a brilliant classical scholar and

Bishop of Lichfield for the last three years of his life. In 1798 he

became Headmaster of Shrewsbury and married Harriet, da. of

Rev. East Apthorp. By her he had Thomas and Mary, wife of

Edward Bather, and Harriet. Thomas was Rector of Langar,

Notts., where Samuel (1835-1902) was born. This Samuel was

something of a phenomenon: well known as the author of

"Erewhon" and The Way of All flesh", he was also an artist who

regularly exhibited at the Academy (one of his paintings is in the

Tate Gallery, London) and he composed oratorios.

25. What was the ancestry of Samuel Butler (1612-1680), author

of "Hudibras"?

He was 5th child and 2nd s. of another Samuel Butler who was a

farmer and churchwarden in Stensham, Worcs. (Diet. Nat. Biog.)

It is not yet known if he was connected with the Butlers of Claynes,

Worcs. (for whose ancestry see Butler Jo., I, 65). His fame isbased on his formidable mock-heroic poem, "Hudibras", which

reflects his reaction to Puritanism. His memorial in Westminister

Abbey is next to Milton's. It was provided by a Lord Mayor

called John Barber which caused Pope to quip:

"But whence, this Barber? that a name so mean

Should, join'd with Butler's, on a tomb be seen

26. Who was the Richard Butler who in 1664 gave a votive tab-

let to La Rochelle Cathedral?

Maurice Craig reports the tablet is still there with its legend:

"Notre Dame de Port Salut, donna par Richard Butler, 1664".

This Richard must have been the shipowner and planter who c.

1650 emigrated from Galway to La Rochelle (R. Hayes, Biog. Dict.

of Irishmen in France). He m. Madeleine Courcoison, a native of

La Rochelle, and by her had Margaret whose marriage in 1675 to

John Butler was the foundation of the De Butler family (see Butler

Jo., I, 108). This John's paternal grandfather, another John Butler,

had a brother, Richard, who m. Jane Athey (G. 0., MS., 162) and

was probably father or grandfather of the votive tablet's donor.

27. Who was the Richard Butler whose daughter, Elizabeth,

married, 1680, Thomas Minchin of Busherstown, King's Co?

He was Richard Butler of Barrowmount, Co. Kilkenny (d.s.p.m.,

1678), 3rd s. of Pierce, 1st s. of 1st Viscount Galmoy, s. of Piers,

illegit. s. of 10th Earl of Ormond. The enquirer is Col. R.G.E.

Minchin who is the present occupier of Busherstown, Offaly. He

confirms that Thomas and Elizabeth left three das. The eldest was

Anne, (d. 1711), whose devoted husband, Thomas Parnell (1679-

1718) was, nearly a year after her death, still ill with grief, accord-

ing to Swift.

28. Who was the Anne Butler who married Thomas Dallin (or

"Dallan") at the end of the 17th century?

Their 2nd da., Margaret, married, 6 Nov. 1719, at Ballinacarrick,

Co. Wexford. Thomas Thompson (1693-1780) of Coolynaboy.

Co. Wexford. Thomas and Margaret Thompson were Quakers and

cohabited at Deeps-on-Slaney, Co. Wexford where his father,

John Thompson, had come from England to settle. Their descend-

ants include Miss Doris McCullagh of Dublin and Mr. N. King

Harris of Hens., both of whom have separately quoted the rather

surprising tradition that Anne was a da. of a Duke of Ormonde.

She is unlikely to have been even an illegit. da. of the 1st Duke,

although she might conceivably have been a da. of his illegit. son,

James Butler (see also under Question No. 23).

If a da. of the 2nd Duke, she must have been illegit.; but there

appears to be no mention of her or any of her descendants in the

Earl of Arran's Will in which the testator in 1757 was careful to

provide for other illegit. issue of his brother, the 2nd Duke. The

Will is printed in full at p. 72 of the Minutes of Evidence of the

Butler of Moore Park Barony Case.

The reference to Quakers, as well as Co. Wexford, suggests Anne

may have been of the same family as Richard Butler, the Quaker,

whose family held land in Co. Wexford, although in 1710 he was

in Bristol (Butler Jo., I, 64). Again, the Mountgarrets were closely

associated with Co. Wexford and Anne may have been a da. of the

5th Viscount.

29. Who was the Sarah Butler (b. 1785) who married Thomas

Singleton of Ferns, Co. Wex ford?

Their great-great-grand-da.. Mrs. Kidd of Ontario, recounts a

belief that Thomas was a Protestant and Sarah, a Catholic and

that they eloped when he was employed by her father and she was

out riding. Mrs. Kidd adds that they and their two sons, William

(b. 1812) and John (b. 1815) migrated from Ireland to Canada in

1817. Eleanor Butler, da. of 1st Viscount Galmoy (d. 1653) once

married a Mr. Masterson of Ferns, Co. Wexford. Possibly Sarah

was also of the Galmoy branch.

ADDENDA

The following additions can now oe made to answers to earlier

questions.

2. The earliest knnwn forefather of the Butlers of Ireland

(Butler Jo., I, 62 & 129) Prof. A. J. Otway-Ruthven has

written in her fascinating book, A History of Medieval Ireland

(E. Bean, 1968) "Theobald Walter, the founder of the great Butler

family, which was to dominate so much of the later history of

Ireland, was the son and eventual heir of Hervey Walter of

Amounderness in Lancashire, hereditary Butler of England". But

she gives no reason for stating that Hervey Walter was Butler of

England and we know of none.

3. Plus Pense Que Dire (Butler Jo., 1, 62 & 129). For more

about Charles d'Orleans (1394-1465), see Enid McLeod's Charles

of Orleans, recently published by Chatto & Windus.

7. Richard Butler, the Quaker, of Bristol, 1710 (Butler Jo., I,

64) The Rev. Mel Butler of Canada has discovered that Richard

Butler, a shipwright of Bristol, had a son, Thomas, who in 1652

was apprenticed to William Lloyd and Alice. his wife, and, in 1663,

married Mary, da. of William Lloyd, and that in 1671 a Thomas

Butler paid hearth tax in the parish of St. Mary Redcliffe, Bristol.

Perhaps Richard, the shipwright, was ancestor of Richard, the

Quaker.

9. Living male descendants of 9th Earl of Ormond (1504-46)

(Butler Jo., I, 131). No more have come to light. But it is proving

surprisingly difficult to confirm the deaths without issue of the four

children of Lord James Butler (1815-93, yger. bro. of 2nd Marq-

uess of Ormonde) by his wife, Rachel, who is given in Burke's

Peerage as da. of 6th Duke of Bedford by his 2nd wife. In a gem

of a letter, the present 13th Duke writes: "I wish I could help.

But the love-life of the 6th Duke and his 2nd wife was most

exotic. All portraits of her were banned and I have to buy them

back at vast cost hither and thither including Cuba. My grandfather

(11th Duke) liked to think all Russells were as pure as driven

snow and anything that existed to prove otherwise was destroyed.

We are therefore very weak in family papers of this period; but I

have asked various people and am awaiting a reply . . . There is

a rumour that Rachel was the da. of Landseer who came osten-

sibly to paint the deer and the children!"

No doubt Butlers visiting Woburn will now find the Landseers

there particularly interesting!

In addition, Mrs. Han Synnot, sister of Charles Butler (b. 1899),

is certain that her cousin, Julian (b. 1864, ygst. of the four

children of James and Rachel) was still a bachelor when he attend-

ed her wedding and lost his false teeth in the straw at the bottom

of a cab! He would then have been 47 years of age.

14. Boutlers of France (Butler Jo., 1, 134). Hearty congratulat-

ions to Jacques Boutler of France and Susanne, nee Treusch von

Buttlar of Germany, on their wedding. They were married on

18 July 1970 in Gottingen. He tells us that some records of his

family are believed to be in the Vatican archives, while others

were in Warsaw, at the Krasinski Palace which was destroyed in

the 1939 War. According to research undertaken by his great-

uncle, Leon Butler, in Morocco, Jacques' paternal grandfather,

Bronislav Butler (1866-1930) was s., not of Alexander Treusch

von Buttlar-Brandenfels, but of Leon Butler, s. of Nicholas, a

descendant of Wilhelm Gothard Butler, Count of the Holy Roman

Empire in 1652 or 1656. Presumably this Count is the Gotthard

Wilhelm von Buttlar of Rudolf's 1888 pedigree who was made

Reichsgraf von Buttlar in Vienna on 27 Feb. 1651. If so, Jacques

is of the von Buttlar line from Wirgen and Miedzylesie, and, as

such, the senior known heir-male of the vast Buttlar family.

Nicholas might well be s. of Johann who was 2nd s. of Michael

(d. 1795), 2nd s. of Markus Anton (d. 1743), 1st s. of Alexander,

4th s. of the above Count G. W. von Buttlar.